Subject: Swope's from WVA Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 17:20:01 -0500 From: Mac Swope To: migen@mail.fwi.com Hello Michael, I noticed that you had a surname submittal w/regard to Swope in Monroe Co. I was in WVA in July and able see and photograph Joseph Swope's headstone. Let me know what Line you are researching. One of my my line reportedly traveled to Indiana and died in Indiana after leavin WVA. my line: Yost (in PA) John Ulrich (later change to Joseph) Joseph of Wolf Creek Va (now WVa) George Archibald ( died in Indiana?) Archibald Alexander George Mckinney Henry Henry M. (Mac) To: Mac Swope Dear Mac: Thanks so much for your email. We are indeed descended from the same lines... I'm descended from Yost Schwab/Hans Ulrich Schwab/Michael Swope/Elizabeth Swope Elizabeth, b. 1778 Wolf Creek WV; d. 1834 Decatur Co., IN; married George Miller 1798 Monroe Co., WV. George married again and finally settled in Van Buren Co., IA. There are lots of Swope researchers/information out there. I don't know how much info you have on the Jost Schwab and his wife's Wolfhardt descendants. Just a few days agao I heard from Richard Francis, francir@mail.arc.losrios.cc.ca.us who sent me a gigantic attachment with Swope, etc. info. Also, Mike Fromholt, migen@mail.fwi.com who forwarded by snail mail lots of files, and finally Warren King, 6739 Markwood St., Worthington, OH 43085 is descended from Michael Swope. So...I'd love to exchange information. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Jill Joseph ============================================================================== Subject: Re: Swope's from WVA Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:01:18 -0500 (EST) From: migen@serv2.fwi.COM (Michael Fromholt) To: Mac Swope Hello,we're from the same Swope,listed below is my wife's(she's the Swope).I know someone in WV that is also descended from JOseph Swope,son of John Ulrich,her e-mail address is sboyer@citynet.net,at least I think she is.Anyway,I am always interested in trading more info,do you have any more?I have more on the ancestory of Yost and also more on the descendents of John Ulrich(I have him as Hans Ulrich) >Yost (in PA) >John Ulrich (later change to Joseph) Michael Swope Joseph Swope(died in Decatur Co,IN) John Swope(died in Clark Co,IL) Jefferson Swope Harriett Swope Chester Kemerly Beulah Kemerly Charlene Woodard m Michael Fromholt Would you like a gedcom file? Michael Fromholt My default signature file. Fort Wayne Internet 219-426-7701 sales@fwi.com ============================================================================= Attached is my complete gedom file,go ahead and send yours to me at this e-mail address. Glad you found Jill Joseph,she is another of my contacts.With my RSL posting I get about 1 or 2 inqueries a week about the Swope lines,by far the most requested.I have about 80 surnames on the RSL file,most are rather uncommon surnames. Have fun Michael Fromholt PS Hope this is the right file,not sure if it has all,let me know if it has the German information on it or not,if not I'll send it later. ======================================================================== Subject: RE: [Fwd: Swope's Knobs] Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 19:05:53 UT From: "Margaret Raburn" To: "Mac Swope" Sounds like you had a really interesting trip! I'd like to know more about these ancestors whenever you can! Robin and I have been putting our info into the Family Tree Maker; if you have any files on the Swopes that you can e-mail me I would really be interested in having and adding to my files...I have zilch on the Swopes past Pappaw Swope. Thanks for keeping us updated! Best wishes to you all and tell your mother hello for me! Margaret ========================================== Margaret, Hope this letter finds you and yours well, and in good spirits. FYI, Wolf Creek is about 30 miles south west of Lewisburg V.VA (in the south east side of the state) Talk soon, Mac in Memphis ============================================================== Anne and Jimmy, Here is a webpage for the High Meadow Lodge ( has jpegs) www.cimarron.net/usa/wv/Highmeadow.html or http://cimarron.net/usa/wv/highmeadow.html Tricia, Tara, Austin, and I took a trip to Pennsylvania via West Virginia. We hiked up the cemetary hill at Wolf Creek and found the headstone of Joseph Swope (who was captured by the Shawnee indians.... In PA, we found the headstone of Yost Swope (the above mentioned JS's grandfather ) just north of Bird In Hand, PA. < which is ~20 miles east of Lancaster PA. Ill try to email some photos later, Mac in Memphis other sites of interest: http://wvweb.com/www/travel_recreation/cvb/southern/Monroe.html#lod http://www.wvlc.wvnet.edu/history/greenbrier3.html --------------5B1130A5A3-- ==================================================================== Hello Michael, I was just sending email to Jill Joseph, when your email arrived! Thanks for the quick reply... As I was telling Jill (see attached)(pg 2) I would really like to find the graves of John Ulrich and Archibald Swope. Archibald would be the same generation as > Joseph Swope(died in Decatur Co,IN)...Thank You for the other email information also. Ill contact sboyer@citynet.net Ill attach the ULR address of High Meadow Farm Lodge, so you can see the view of Swopes Knobs from the comfort of you computer monitor! http://cimarron.net/usa/wv/highmeadow.html ================================================================= Donna Swope> Gedcom is attached, Mac. . . I don't live in Missouri, but in Austin, TX. My late husband's family, however is from Missouri. I have two files to send you . . . . one is Yost's family, one is my husband's -- still trying to connect them! Looking for Swopes in OH . . . ================================================================== I couldn't find a Archibalde Swope or Gwinn family in my Swope or Miller records. I'll keep the note filed, and will contact you, of course, if I find anything. Sincerely, Jill ===================================================================== Subject: PA Swopes Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:36:11 -0500 From: Mac Swope To: Linda Russell Lewis Hello Linda, I was in PA visiting cemetaries ( Lancaster Co ) earlier this summer. Ill be posting a text file that will have your request on Louisa S. Henshey... Have fun and visit often! Mac in Memphis ==================================================================== Hello everyone, excuse the mass mailing ,but thought this would be alot easier.I have added family history pages that can be reached through my web page at: http://www2.fwi.com/~migen/migen.htm Most are now up.If anyone would like me to add anything to the page,feel free to drop me a line,and I'll get to it as soon as possible. Thank for your time and co-operation.any suggestions (other than drop dead)would be greatlt appreciated. Michael & Charlen Fromholt My default signature file. Fort Wayne Internet 219-426-7701 sales@fwi.com ================================================================= Researcher: Linda Russell Lewis ======================================================================= Hey Michael, I just got off of your page and then downloaded the GED2HTML program. It really does a nice job of presenting the GED tree information. About the web page links and addresses try this:
  • Mac Swope's Web page
    If you are using windows 95, (and 3.1 may also allow this) you can highlight any information by click and dragging, then right mouse click and select COPY. The highlighted information should now be saved in a temperary notpade... then when you are in the document that you are editing, ie home.htm, press your right mouse button and then sellect PASTE... the computer should now drop the notepad information into the document that you are editing.... hope I got that right and didnt confuse you.... Mac in Memphis ================================================================== Subject: Schwab Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:50:27 -0700 From: dswope@ix.netcom.com (Donna Swope ) To: macswope@netten.net Hi Mac! Just received an email from a person on AOL who is a descendant of Yost, via Johannes Jost. Says Johannes Jost was married twice -- first to Anna Dorothea Line/Lein, and he is descended from this marriage. He/she has the second wife's name as Catherine Grove -- we have Graff. He/she has the same birthdate for Johannes Jost. Anyway, I have replied asking how best to exchange information, gedcom or snailmail, etc. I'll let you know what I hear! Donna =================================================================== Subject: Swope/Schwab Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:05:36 -0700 From: dswope@ix.netcom.com (Donna Swope ) To: migen@serv2.fwi.com, macswope@netten.net Hi Guys! Well, I am attaching the message I received from our new-found Swope researcher. I will forward anything else I receive. I also heard from another person today -- who has Swopes in Seneca County OH, where I am trying to establish a link -- and says her Swopes are not connected to Yost -- Again, I'll ask for her gedcom & get back to you. Mike -- thank you -- you're great! See ya Donna <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subj: Yost Schwab Date: 96-10-21 21:53:57 EDT From: JOJACDIXON To: IrishinTX Hi Donna, It was great to get such an enthusiastic response to my letter to you about Yost Schwab. I have much to tell you. First I am going over your note and answering your questions. My list of the children of Jost and Anna Katherina Wolfhardt is exactly the same as yours except for child #11, who died the day of birth. If you are interested in tracing all lines of descent from Yost, the name of a lady who is a descendant of Anna Maria Schwab and her husband Andreas Meixel is Lisa Ellen Barnett, P.O. Box 106, Knoxville, Iowa 50138. I last heard from her in 1994 when she wrote "the name of the lady who compiled the Mikesell book, which goes back to various lines including Schwab is: Mrs. Ardella Rohde, Box 269, Parowan, Utah 84761 (phone 801-477-3461)". The book was or is selling for $30. plus $3. shipping. I didn't b uy it so can't comment on it. I did meet a woman who was a descendant of Anna Elizabeth and Johann Eberhardt Riehm about three years ago- I think we worked it out that we were seventh cousins twice removed! She lived in Columbia, Missouri. The genealogical software I use is PAF from Salt Lake City. We are set up to receive a gedcom. We have a Macintosh computer but can convert any disk we receive to make it compatible. My husband is the computer whiz so I rely on him - too much I fear. Before I send you material on a gedcom or through the mail, I would like to know primarily what you are interested in. I will try to explain what I am interested in. First, here is how I am a descendant from Yost. Yost Schwab md Anna Katharina Wolfhart (1663) Johannes Jost Schwab (1704) md Anna Dorothea Line/Lein (1st wife) Anna Dorothea Schwab (1735) md Rev.Johann Samuel Schwerdtfeger (1734) Samuel Schwerdfeger (ca 1763) md Margaretha Crober Peter Schwerdfeger (1808) md Azubah Grandy (1812) William Harvey Schwerdfeger (1842) md Elizabeth Todd (1845) Norman Sidney Schwerdfager (1878) md Ada Marion Morrison (1876) Doris Mary Schwerdfager (1909) md John Wesley Sterling (1902) Marion Doris Jacqueline Sterling (1934) md John Edward Dixon (1933) In my PAF program I have only put information on my direct ancestors and their siblings. I have not entered into it children of siblings. Because of this I cannot print out a list of all the descendants of a certain person. I could give you Family Grou p Records of every family from Yost down to me. A cousin of mine in Ottawa, Ontario has attempted to list all the descendants of Samuel Schwerdfeger and his wife Margaretha Crober. It is not on a computer but is in book form - approximately 100 pages, w hich I have and could copy. Anna Dorothea Schwab married the Lutheran pastor who looked after the congregations in the Lancaster, PA area. Rev. Samuel Schwerdtfeger, his wife Anna Dorothea, and their family moved to various localities - in PA, in Maryland, and in New York state (Al bany area). Because they were loyal to the British crown, they moved to Canada in the early 1790s. I even read that he had been thrown into prison because of his loyalties. He organized the first Lutheran church on the Canadian side of the St. Lawrence River in the area now known as Riverside, Ontario (near Morrisburg, Ont.) Practically all of their children came with them and remained in Canada. I myself was born in Ottawa and know of few Schwerdfagers who returned to the U.S. A book was written ab out the Rev. by a descendant. It is fact mixed with fiction I believe. There is a portion in it about the Rev. meeting Anna Dorothea and saving her from a wolf! The author is now dead. I wish I could have quizzed her about the source of her story. Th ere is a plaque on the St. Lawrence River about the Rev. and lots written about him. I could send you a one page writeup on him if you are interested. A man named Klaas VanderBaaren, P.O. Box 81, Morrisburg Ontario, K0C 1X0, Canada was encouraging diffe rent descendants to write books on the various descendants of each of Rev. Samuel's sons. Some of them were actually published but I never have seen any of them. It has been four years since I had contact with him. He was a committed researcher. About three years ago we stopped and spent a day at the Lancaster PA Historical Society library. I went through as many books, files, etc. as I could in the time we had. I probably have a few more facts on the families of Johannes Jost Schwab by his two wives than you have because of this. I might (?) have a few more facts on Yost Schwab's family but I am not sure. I found a writeup on the moving of Yost and his wife's bodies from one burial site to another. It is a little gruesome but interesting. Would you like to see it if you have not already not? I have no information on Yost Schwab's parents and ancestors and would dearly love it if you could send me what you have. About three years ago we copied (gedcom) the information on the computer in the Ancestral File at the Family History Center in SLC o n Katherina Wolfhardt's ancestors. I wish that I had some of the sources for the material that was entered for Anna Katherina Wolfhardt's ancestors. If you have these, I would really appreciate it if you could share them with me. Did you know that your husband and I have a 'famous' cousin? - Jane Fonda. She is my fourth cousin once removed (on her mother's side). She is a descendant of the Rev. Schwerdtfeger and his wife Anna Dorothea Schwab. I have never contacted Jane about o ur 'close' relationship. I have a feeling she wouldn't be the least bit interested! Maybe this bit of news will make you want to cheer for the Atlanta Braves instead of the New York Yankees. I'm sorry that none of our line goes back to Ohio. I would love to have your gedcom file listing the descendants you have for Yost Schwab. I am particularly interested in the FGRs for Yost and his children. I have always been a bit puzzled about the eldest son Hans Jorg. Did he settle in the York PA ar ea? I definitely would like to see the descendants on this line. When I was at the Lancaster Co. Historical Society I saw mentioned the following book - "The Shope (Swope?)-Schwab Family Tree and Genealogy", published by Gilbert Ernst Swope in 1896 (400 pages). I don't believe it was in the library. I wrote to them a sking where I could find it. I never got a reply. It sounded intriguing. Have you seen it? It might provide your missing link. I would appreciate it if you would tell me how to hook up with Mike Fromholtz's web page. Sorry that this was so long but I had so much to say. Jackie Dixon 3471 Bayou Sound Longboat Key, FL 34228 ================================================================= Subject: SWOPE/ELLISON RESEARCH Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:54:15 -0900 From: Ginny Humes To: "'macswope@netten.net'" I saw your website yesterday and thought I would write. I'm a 4th great granddaughter of Michael Swope and Mary Eleanor Ellison and would gladly share what I have with you. I'd also appreciate whatever infor you can spare to shed light on this family. Ginny ginny@ptialaska.net ======================================================================== Hello Ginny, Thanks for stopping by the webpage, and leaving a note. Let me start by saying I'm not the geneology expert in my family,,, actually, it was my mother that got me hooked. I'll forward you message to her, perhaps she can help. Also, if you want to attach your family tree information, Ill add it to the webpage. The stadard seems to be GED format. I just looked at your email address, are you in Alaska? Drop by again soon, Ill be posting a photo of the marker that was recently dedicated to the Swopes of Wolf Creek W.VA. I look forward to exchanging branches with you. Bye for now, Mac in Memphis ========================================================= I spoke with my mother and she has some information... Michael Swope was the brother of Joseph Swope (my line) of Wolf Creek. Barbra Kellar of Hinton W.Va, has been in contact with a California family who are decendants of Michael. Michael has a DAR line. The Historical marker that I mentioned in my last message mentions Michael, Historical marker reads: JOSEPH SWOPE Born 1707 in Germany, Swope came to America ca. 1720. Reputedly first to settle Monroe County, ca 1752, when part of Agusta Co. Son Michael, born 29 Sept. 1753, recorded as 1st white child born in Monroe. Nerby is grage of son Joseph, seized in 1756 Shawnee raid and held captive for nine years. Swope served in Colonial Wars and his sons, Joseph, John and Michael served in the American Revolution. Bye now, Mac in Memphis =================================================================== Subject: SWOPE Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 21:23:49 -0800 From: Rowe-Uhlig To: macswope@netten.net Hi Mac! I too am a descendant of Yost SCHWAB, and have been in contact with many others--most of which you list on your website. I will contact another one or two and encourage them to check out your site. I've recently been in contact with Ginny Humes. I'm interested in something you said in your letter to her, as follows: > Michael Swope was the brother of Joseph Swope (my line) of Wolf Creek. > Barbra Kellar of Hinton W.Va, has been in contact with a California > family who are decendants of Michael. Michael has a DAR line. You don't list Barbra Kellar's email, and I think I'd like to contact her regarding this CA line. Mine also went on to CA, and I'm wondering how immediately we may be related. Can you pass her email on to me? My relationship is through Michael SWOPE & Mary Eleanor ELLISON's daughter, Elizabeth, who married George MILLER. Jill Joseph and I both descend from George and Elizabeth's daughter, K(C)atherine, who married James JOHNSTON. I am also descended from George and Elizabeth's daughter, Sarah, who married Andrew DUNN. I'm amazed at the number of people online who are related through the SWOPE's. My only regret is that there doesn't seem to be anyone working on some of my other lines! Whine, whine, whine! Anyway, thanks for the website and for helping us all get together. Myrna -- Myrna Rowe Uhlig, Northwest Oregon mailto:hotratz@aone.com Interests: Genealogy, Sustainable Building Technology, Textiles, Crafts Contact for: Madcap Products, Bond Street Blues Band, UpperLeftEdge Newspaper ============================================================================ Hello Myrna, Glad to see some of the Oregon Klan! I knew of a distant-distant Uncle George that went to Oregon. I have a George in my line that was named after him. The Oregon George was burried in Benton County ~1850's. I was in Medford last October, very Beautiful country! Crater lake and the redwoods of Northern CA... There is a Joseph Swope grandchild, Henry CASEBOLT, that was the inventor of the cable-car inventor (San Fransisco '49er) . ref MILLER book. Barbara's Address: Barbara Keller 112 Greenbriar Hinton, WV 25951 Anyway, Thanks again for the compliments, If you want to send some information to me, Ill post, along with your e-mail address. Bye now, Mac in Memphis ======================== ======================== Subject: Swope list Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:56:31 -0500 From: Susan Boyer To: macswope@netten.net Hi Mac: Great news, or at least I think so. I have been accepted to own a mail group that is specifically for Swope, Schwab, Swoope surname. I am putting together the welcome message and instructions for subscribing, and I wonder if you would like your web page listed in the welcome message? I am very excited; well, nervous too, since I really don't know what I am getting into. It looks as though my job will be to handle mail problems and yell at people who flame (which of course a REAL Swope would never do - hahahaha), and unsubscribe people who need it, whether they know it or not. I'll send out some emails when it's ready, hopefully this week. I have to get the materials back to the listserv guy and then wait for him to subscribe me as the first person on the list. He said he would do this within 4 days. I subscribe to several of these surname lists, and some are very active, and some aren't, so we'll see about this one! My husband's "Coon/Koontz" list comes to 15 or 20 messages a day sometimes, but my "Stewart" list is more like 1 message a month. Go figure. Let me know about the plug for your web page. I don't want to start out by making anyone mad! >... Susan, if you can get the machine parts together, Ill be glad to >help you >assemble the machine, and even help to turn the crank! I may very well take you up on this. I haven't discovered yet what happens if I go on vacation. I saw an entire list crash a while back when the list owner left and someone on the list also left, but left and automatic reply feature on her email. As the messages multiplied geometrically, he was just gone! I came in the first morning to find 1300 messages! >> people. I find direct-line despondency lists (e. g. Yost to me) to be Boy, it sure helps to recheck what the spell checker is actually inserting (mine, not yours!)! My "despondency list" will be inserted here, in case I haven't sent it before. I've been so ditsy the last few weeks! >I understand the part about families that push the wrong buttons, >I have somehow lost the use of my CD-ROM drive, We never know what to expect when we boot! Our 17-year old is absolutely fearless on the computer, matched only by our absolute fearFULness. We thought about fighting battles over it, and then decided just to back up as much as we can and let him have at it. It's amazing what he can do, and it's only a computer. >As for your idea about the "My line to Yost", thats a great idea! >Also, I would be glad to add any personal profiles about the researchers >on my address listings so that we can know more about each other and >the capabilities of our computers.